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Prior20 ha scritto:
- youview is a unique add-on feature to Sony tv. Disable it and you'll get what you can with any other brands connecting a youview box. Including your tv pvr features enabled.
Disable it and you are unable to access any of UK catchup services, so you get to pick a feature, record or catchup
Why you don't blame broadcaster for not issueing an Android TV app outside the Youview feature? It's a standard platform not in Sony control. In Italy we have the case of Sky that has commercial agreement with Samsung and is not delivering an app for Android, still you can use it via chromecast feature of the smartphone app: why in UK they are not doing this? BTW why you need to record programme if you have already 8 days back to view older program
- unlike other tv platform (including the acclaimed tizen) android tv start is almost instantaneous being that by design it doesn't shutdown. Where did you take your 30 sec measurement?
I took it from when i wake up turn on the tv and sit waiting to change the channel (this is with youview enabled)
Cannot state with youview enabled, with standard DBVT it take 3 seconds on my KD55A1 to switch the tv on and change channel. I'm thinking about realizing a video on the performance of my tv in 'cause I'm bored about a general statement about Android TV to be so slow...
- BBC hlg issue I cannot comment since I do not live in UK
Well there was a statement to say it would be supported, then it was removed from sony pages.
My understanding is that it is not still know who is messing with HLG: BBC iplayer on AndroidTV or Sony...
- Netflix . Do not know any issue about the app
Netflix stopped working after updates more than once
Never ever happening on my tv, Netflix is working like a charm in 4K HDR, waiting to see with DV
- Amazon app is poor implemented. By Amazon. It should be replaced in next fw update. But it works.
Its been shocking from the start, bad audio sync, bad jerking, not playing content first time - funny this happens on no other device other than the TV
Again the app is an Amazon one, it's slow, doens't start correctly on the first video, but than the quality is amazing (i.e. Grandtour)
- Wi-Fi issue? Which Wi-Fi issue?
The your tv is not connected to the internet every 5 mins, lots of this and other wifi issues (not connecting at all, forgetting connection, bandwidth slowdown.
I do not use wifi because is unstable by definition (TPLINK powerlink instead). Never ever had an issue with the connection
- pass through issue? Which pass through issue?
Audio Passthrough, lipsync or simply no sound with certain standards
I've an HTCT350 connected to my tv. Never ever had problems in passing the supported audio codec (DD, DTS), and never ever had lipsync if the source do not have it (i.e. some youtube video)
- bt issue? Which? And what do you expect to do with bt?
So you do not have an A2DP enabled TV, and if was never advertized, what do you are looking for? My A1 is enabled and it works (still a bug on enabling internal speaker together with the headphone, but in my setup is working fine)
- bandwidth drop? When? Doing what?
You are point to a post raised by an Italian user with which I discuss a lot, nut it is clearly signed as solved by a reset. So which is the problem?
- lack of profile backup: it a wish that I can understand but which brand you can enumerate that can backup the profile?
Which brand requires so many factory resets it needs the feature, most other android devices offer the feature
Any. Just look at Samsung, Panasonic, LG site: first standard answer with "strange" problem "do a reset!". Never had the need to reset my own A1 in 4 months. Done it once on my previous XD83. And remember it is still a TV not a tablet, so not anything that apply to a tablet/smartphone is so easy on a TV.
- poor drivers for doing what? It is not a pc
well dependant on how you look at it, it has an OS that requires drivers network card, display, sound etc.. all have shown poor performance in sony (mediatek i belive supply these)
You are referring on audio passthrough to third party app I guess, so which is the problem? Kodi cannot be installed on any other tv brand. Drivers for standard TV features are working fine on my tv. And Archos (even if Kuschelmonster would say is dangerous) is able to passhtrough multichannel audio to my HT
- poor hardware: I can agree soc not the best on the tech world...but exactly what you can't do with it? And you consider the soc being the hw of the tv?!?
If the hardware is great why is th TV and all aspects slow ?
You are still thinking at the hardware of the TV as you would for a PC. My idea of HW start for example from the panel, than the video processor X1 Estreme.....And again IT IS NOT SO SLOW!!! I've used recently a Tizen tv that is far slower compared to my A1 (ok mine is a flagship, that one was a J6300 but it is advertized as having the same smart feature than the top ones)
- random restart ? How many? Doing what?
oh this could be doing anything, in fairness the new model is much better but the 2016 model i had would restart 5 times a day easily, others report this
Ok so you, like me, are not experiencing this problem
You are obviously free to choose any brand for your next tv but have a look please to official/unofficial forum of Samsung Philips Panasonic LG.. and see if you find any comment really similar to yours
agreed all have issues, but sony seems to struggle with some real basics.. i mean no programme reminders ? are we in 1932???
My tv , with no Youview, has programme reminders associated to the standard Guide/recording feature. So I guess it goes to problem #1 Youview features...
Again I think really to realize a video with timing of functionalities (start up time, aerial tv swicthing time, standard app load, video stremaing over internet, DLNA, SMB connection) and hope someone can realize the same on other sets in order to really compare it. I'm not saying Android TV is lightning fast, but works decently and has a lot of potential that other platform canot ever reach. And oh my gosh, the HW of my TV (i still mean the panel and electronics) is really spectacular!!! Have a look at an OLED panel, and you'll forget anything else 
Pleas do not take my comments as a way of defending Sony at all costs, I'm in love with it but I think to be rather fair
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Prior20 ha scritto:
- youview is a unique add-on feature to Sony tv. Disable it and you'll get what you can with any other brands connecting a youview box. Including your tv pvr features enabled.
Disable it and you are unable to access any of UK catchup services, so you get to pick a feature, record or catchup
Why you don't blame broadcaster for not issueing an Android TV app outside the Youview feature? It's a standard platform not in Sony control. In Italy we have the case of Sky that has commercial agreement with Samsung and is not delivering an app for Android, still you can use it via chromecast feature of the smartphone app: why in UK they are not doing this? BTW why you need to record programme if you have already 8 days back to view older program
- unlike other tv platform (including the acclaimed tizen) android tv start is almost instantaneous being that by design it doesn't shutdown. Where did you take your 30 sec measurement?
I took it from when i wake up turn on the tv and sit waiting to change the channel (this is with youview enabled)
Cannot state with youview enabled, with standard DBVT it take 3 seconds on my KD55A1 to switch the tv on and change channel. I'm thinking about realizing a video on the performance of my tv in 'cause I'm bored about a general statement about Android TV to be so slow...
- BBC hlg issue I cannot comment since I do not live in UK
Well there was a statement to say it would be supported, then it was removed from sony pages.
My understanding is that it is not still know who is messing with HLG: BBC iplayer on AndroidTV or Sony...
- Netflix . Do not know any issue about the app
Netflix stopped working after updates more than once
Never ever happening on my tv, Netflix is working like a charm in 4K HDR, waiting to see with DV
- Amazon app is poor implemented. By Amazon. It should be replaced in next fw update. But it works.
Its been shocking from the start, bad audio sync, bad jerking, not playing content first time - funny this happens on no other device other than the TV
Again the app is an Amazon one, it's slow, doens't start correctly on the first video, but than the quality is amazing (i.e. Grandtour)
- Wi-Fi issue? Which Wi-Fi issue?
The your tv is not connected to the internet every 5 mins, lots of this and other wifi issues (not connecting at all, forgetting connection, bandwidth slowdown.
I do not use wifi because is unstable by definition (TPLINK powerlink instead). Never ever had an issue with the connection
- pass through issue? Which pass through issue?
Audio Passthrough, lipsync or simply no sound with certain standards
I've an HTCT350 connected to my tv. Never ever had problems in passing the supported audio codec (DD, DTS), and never ever had lipsync if the source do not have it (i.e. some youtube video)
- bt issue? Which? And what do you expect to do with bt?
So you do not have an A2DP enabled TV, and if was never advertized, what do you are looking for? My A1 is enabled and it works (still a bug on enabling internal speaker together with the headphone, but in my setup is working fine)
- bandwidth drop? When? Doing what?
You are point to a post raised by an Italian user with which I discuss a lot, nut it is clearly signed as solved by a reset. So which is the problem?
- lack of profile backup: it a wish that I can understand but which brand you can enumerate that can backup the profile?
Which brand requires so many factory resets it needs the feature, most other android devices offer the feature
Any. Just look at Samsung, Panasonic, LG site: first standard answer with "strange" problem "do a reset!". Never had the need to reset my own A1 in 4 months. Done it once on my previous XD83. And remember it is still a TV not a tablet, so not anything that apply to a tablet/smartphone is so easy on a TV.
- poor drivers for doing what? It is not a pc
well dependant on how you look at it, it has an OS that requires drivers network card, display, sound etc.. all have shown poor performance in sony (mediatek i belive supply these)
You are referring on audio passthrough to third party app I guess, so which is the problem? Kodi cannot be installed on any other tv brand. Drivers for standard TV features are working fine on my tv. And Archos (even if Kuschelmonster would say is dangerous) is able to passhtrough multichannel audio to my HT
- poor hardware: I can agree soc not the best on the tech world...but exactly what you can't do with it? And you consider the soc being the hw of the tv?!?
If the hardware is great why is th TV and all aspects slow ?
You are still thinking at the hardware of the TV as you would for a PC. My idea of HW start for example from the panel, than the video processor X1 Estreme.....And again IT IS NOT SO SLOW!!! I've used recently a Tizen tv that is far slower compared to my A1 (ok mine is a flagship, that one was a J6300 but it is advertized as having the same smart feature than the top ones)
- random restart ? How many? Doing what?
oh this could be doing anything, in fairness the new model is much better but the 2016 model i had would restart 5 times a day easily, others report this
Ok so you, like me, are not experiencing this problem
You are obviously free to choose any brand for your next tv but have a look please to official/unofficial forum of Samsung Philips Panasonic LG.. and see if you find any comment really similar to yours
agreed all have issues, but sony seems to struggle with some real basics.. i mean no programme reminders ? are we in 1932???
My tv , with no Youview, has programme reminders associated to the standard Guide/recording feature. So I guess it goes to problem #1 Youview features...
Again I think really to realize a video with timing of functionalities (start up time, aerial tv swicthing time, standard app load, video stremaing over internet, DLNA, SMB connection) and hope someone can realize the same on other sets in order to really compare it. I'm not saying Android TV is lightning fast, but works decently and has a lot of potential that other platform canot ever reach. And oh my gosh, the HW of my TV (i still mean the panel and electronics) is really spectacular!!! Have a look at an OLED panel, and you'll forget anything else
Please do not take my comments as defending Sony at all costs, I'm in love with it but I think I'm rather fair
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@kinggo01 @Prior20 @Kuschelmonschter finally I dit it I took some sample recording of the performance of my tv
Please have a look at it and leave your comment, maybe I'm really wrong and it is slow but I'm not able to judge.
https://community.sony.it/t5/android-tv/how-really-slow-is-android-tv/m-p/2429785#M25486
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